THERE ARE TWO Patrick Horgan narratives at play as the week inches towards the Sunday afternoon of All-Ireland final judgement.
There is the one that the majority of the hurling world have focused on since Cork toppled Limerick in that epic semi-final.
At 36 years of age, with 17 senior seasons in the bank, is this the last chance for Horgan to shed his tag as the best current hurler never to have won an All-Ireland?
And there is the one that the player himself reaches for. The motivation and prize is more personal, rather than getting wrapped up in an obsessive pursuit of a medal.
โIf I didnโt love it as much as I did, I wouldnโt play at all. Thereโd be no reason to. Even to win the Limerick game, for me, wasnโt the reward of the match at all. It was, we get a training session Tuesday, back with the boys. Weโd all be down together, we get on really well. Weโd meet a lot outside of training. Just to keep that together was just nearly more of an incentive than the next match.
โIโm not aiming 17 years towards a day. That doesnโt mean I havenโt had good times, do you know what I mean? Iโve had good days down through the years and the amount of stories you have from match days and training and 17 years of my life has been coming here, hanging out with the boys.
โNew fellas coming in, getting to know them, becoming great friends with them. That means a lot to me. Obviously, itโd be unbelievable if we could get across the line, but it canโt be just about that. In your hurling career, itโs lovely to get it and everybody wants to have it and Iโm no different. But Iโd look over a long time and did I enjoy it or didnโt enjoy it?
โAnd I did. You have to be lucky along the way and I have been really lucky, I have to say that.โ
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Cork's Patrick Horgan. Tom Maher / INPHO
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When Horgan reflects on his career, he points to his younger self as a hurling obsessive that almost put in too much graft.
โWhen I started playing. I was on the pitch at five, we were training at seven. Then weโd have a two-hour session, weโre going to be on the field four hours and Iโd be worn out. Thereโs so much more goes on in a game when you realise that, your training routine (has to) change. So definitely early on, I definitely did too much.
โI wasnโt listening, but I was barred from the pitch for a while. Remember the old Pรกirc (Uรญ Chaoimh), the two big red gates, they were just closed, not a hope (of getting in). Barred out of the Glen field as well. So then the game started to change and we started thinking differently about the matches. The training routine then changed. So itโs not all about the time you put in, itโs the quality time.โ
That desire to keep improving endures. It is just channelled differently now, but hurling remains consuming.
โI just have this thing where I just have to try to get better all the time. Itโs weird. I think if you lose that, youโll just freefall. I feel like Iโd be annoyed if I couldnโt do something. When we train, weโd see a lot of players doing a certain move or strike, and then every fella is over trying to do it and youโll be freaking out if you canโt do it. The hunger to be better is just really strong.
โI think about it a lot though. I canโt put a time in it. Just visualising things that could happen or things that will happen. How to get better. If Iโm walking down the street, if Iโm with a buddy, Iโll walk away from them and think about something. But they know at this stage. If I go quiet or anything, they know what Iโm doing.โ
Sundayโs meeting reawakens memories of the two-game saga Clare and Cork served up in September 2013. Horgan was within seconds of being crowned the Cork match-winner, snapping over a glorious shot into Hill 16, before Domhnall OโDonovanโs intervention saved Clare.
Patrick Horgan celebrates his point in the 2013 drawn final. Ryan Byrne / INPHO
Ryan Byrne / INPHO / INPHO
โIt was disappointing at the time, probably should have got over the line, didnโt.
โDo you know what I can remember (of OโDonovanโs point), is a sequence of play where five or six things happened, and if one thing happened differently, the game was over, and it just kept seeming to break for them. And then the strike, and I think one of our fellas went for a hook and just missed that and it went all over the black spot then.โ
โProbably stung for a while after. But after that, it was a case of get back to what you loved doing. You can think of that and itโll affect you going forward or else just try to forget about it and improve.โ
Horgan is an attacking survivor from that Cork team, Seamus Harnedy and Conor Lehane the others still soldiering away as part of the current seutp. They have been joined by a new cast of characters up front as Cork have caught fire this summer โ Barrett, Dalton, Connolly and Hayes all bursting into the spotlight.
โAll our forwards have been flying. They just bring a lot of energy. Shane, especially, he just doesnโt get tired. It looks like it anyway. But he just keeps going the whole match and it creates a lot of openings for other fellas.
โThen you have the two boys in the wing who always have to be minded as well. Weโve a good thing going inside as well with the other two lads. Itโs just been unbelievable to play in the team really.โ
The other change on match day is the presence of his young son Jack after the final whistle.
Patrick Horgan and his son Jack after Cork's win over Limerick. James Crombie / INPHO
James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO
โHeโs on the pitch more than me. He loves it. Heโd be crying over the noise, but once he touched the grass, then I couldnโt get him off. But for me, on about the scoring thing now, and thatโs just a thing.
โBut to look back on having Jack there, when all this is happening and weโre getting so much support and sell-out stadiums nearly every time we play and having him there, thatโs what itโs about, really, isnโt it? Looking back on things like that.โ
It may be the build-up to an All-Ireland final but still seems natural for Horgan to be in a reflective mood. A senior championship career that began with a substitute appearance against Tipperary in June 2008, has seen him be integral to Corkโs apsirations ever since.
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The outcome on Sunday wonโt influence his future decisions.
โIโll see myself. If I feel like I canโt contribute to training, contribute to the team, well then thereโs plenty young fellas there that can. We see every night in training. Thatโs the level weโre at here, where thereโs going to be fellas not make the panel next week. Theyโll feel like they should have and theyโve done so much effort. But thatโs the panel we have, and thatโs how I see it.
โIf I see myself falling off like a performance or speed-wise, and if I feel like I donโt have the hunger to train and put in the amount of effort that the players we have put in, then I wouldnโt. If you donโt have it, you donโt have it.
โObviously, itโs a really hard thing for anyone to do (retire). Itโs going to be really hard for me, 17 years is a long time and before that, youโre still nearly putting in as much time for the previous six or seven because youโre trying to get to here.
โWhen it does come time where I need to stop playing, I (know I) was so lucky. So it should be easy for me to give it up, have a few pucks around. But letโs see.
โTraining on Wednesday night is all itโs about for me. I love coming down early, being ready, throwing on the gear, going out and just do, whatever you want on the pitch. Boys come along, have a few chats. Thatโs what sport is. Itโs great to be involved in these big games and sell outs there (against Limerick). But itโs about the people you meet and the days you have with them.โ
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Patrick Horgan: '17 years of my life coming here, I have been really lucky'
THERE ARE TWO Patrick Horgan narratives at play as the week inches towards the Sunday afternoon of All-Ireland final judgement.
There is the one that the majority of the hurling world have focused on since Cork toppled Limerick in that epic semi-final.
At 36 years of age, with 17 senior seasons in the bank, is this the last chance for Horgan to shed his tag as the best current hurler never to have won an All-Ireland?
And there is the one that the player himself reaches for. The motivation and prize is more personal, rather than getting wrapped up in an obsessive pursuit of a medal.
โIf I didnโt love it as much as I did, I wouldnโt play at all. Thereโd be no reason to. Even to win the Limerick game, for me, wasnโt the reward of the match at all. It was, we get a training session Tuesday, back with the boys. Weโd all be down together, we get on really well. Weโd meet a lot outside of training. Just to keep that together was just nearly more of an incentive than the next match.
โIโm not aiming 17 years towards a day. That doesnโt mean I havenโt had good times, do you know what I mean? Iโve had good days down through the years and the amount of stories you have from match days and training and 17 years of my life has been coming here, hanging out with the boys.
โNew fellas coming in, getting to know them, becoming great friends with them. That means a lot to me. Obviously, itโd be unbelievable if we could get across the line, but it canโt be just about that. In your hurling career, itโs lovely to get it and everybody wants to have it and Iโm no different. But Iโd look over a long time and did I enjoy it or didnโt enjoy it?
โAnd I did. You have to be lucky along the way and I have been really lucky, I have to say that.โ
When Horgan reflects on his career, he points to his younger self as a hurling obsessive that almost put in too much graft.
โWhen I started playing. I was on the pitch at five, we were training at seven. Then weโd have a two-hour session, weโre going to be on the field four hours and Iโd be worn out. Thereโs so much more goes on in a game when you realise that, your training routine (has to) change. So definitely early on, I definitely did too much.
โI wasnโt listening, but I was barred from the pitch for a while. Remember the old Pรกirc (Uรญ Chaoimh), the two big red gates, they were just closed, not a hope (of getting in). Barred out of the Glen field as well. So then the game started to change and we started thinking differently about the matches. The training routine then changed. So itโs not all about the time you put in, itโs the quality time.โ
That desire to keep improving endures. It is just channelled differently now, but hurling remains consuming.
โI just have this thing where I just have to try to get better all the time. Itโs weird. I think if you lose that, youโll just freefall. I feel like Iโd be annoyed if I couldnโt do something. When we train, weโd see a lot of players doing a certain move or strike, and then every fella is over trying to do it and youโll be freaking out if you canโt do it. The hunger to be better is just really strong.
โI think about it a lot though. I canโt put a time in it. Just visualising things that could happen or things that will happen. How to get better. If Iโm walking down the street, if Iโm with a buddy, Iโll walk away from them and think about something. But they know at this stage. If I go quiet or anything, they know what Iโm doing.โ
Sundayโs meeting reawakens memories of the two-game saga Clare and Cork served up in September 2013. Horgan was within seconds of being crowned the Cork match-winner, snapping over a glorious shot into Hill 16, before Domhnall OโDonovanโs intervention saved Clare.
โIt was disappointing at the time, probably should have got over the line, didnโt.
โDo you know what I can remember (of OโDonovanโs point), is a sequence of play where five or six things happened, and if one thing happened differently, the game was over, and it just kept seeming to break for them. And then the strike, and I think one of our fellas went for a hook and just missed that and it went all over the black spot then.โ
โProbably stung for a while after. But after that, it was a case of get back to what you loved doing. You can think of that and itโll affect you going forward or else just try to forget about it and improve.โ
Horgan is an attacking survivor from that Cork team, Seamus Harnedy and Conor Lehane the others still soldiering away as part of the current seutp. They have been joined by a new cast of characters up front as Cork have caught fire this summer โ Barrett, Dalton, Connolly and Hayes all bursting into the spotlight.
โAll our forwards have been flying. They just bring a lot of energy. Shane, especially, he just doesnโt get tired. It looks like it anyway. But he just keeps going the whole match and it creates a lot of openings for other fellas.
โThen you have the two boys in the wing who always have to be minded as well. Weโve a good thing going inside as well with the other two lads. Itโs just been unbelievable to play in the team really.โ
The other change on match day is the presence of his young son Jack after the final whistle.
โHeโs on the pitch more than me. He loves it. Heโd be crying over the noise, but once he touched the grass, then I couldnโt get him off. But for me, on about the scoring thing now, and thatโs just a thing.
โBut to look back on having Jack there, when all this is happening and weโre getting so much support and sell-out stadiums nearly every time we play and having him there, thatโs what itโs about, really, isnโt it? Looking back on things like that.โ
It may be the build-up to an All-Ireland final but still seems natural for Horgan to be in a reflective mood. A senior championship career that began with a substitute appearance against Tipperary in June 2008, has seen him be integral to Corkโs apsirations ever since.
The outcome on Sunday wonโt influence his future decisions.
โIโll see myself. If I feel like I canโt contribute to training, contribute to the team, well then thereโs plenty young fellas there that can. We see every night in training. Thatโs the level weโre at here, where thereโs going to be fellas not make the panel next week. Theyโll feel like they should have and theyโve done so much effort. But thatโs the panel we have, and thatโs how I see it.
โIf I see myself falling off like a performance or speed-wise, and if I feel like I donโt have the hunger to train and put in the amount of effort that the players we have put in, then I wouldnโt. If you donโt have it, you donโt have it.
โObviously, itโs a really hard thing for anyone to do (retire). Itโs going to be really hard for me, 17 years is a long time and before that, youโre still nearly putting in as much time for the previous six or seven because youโre trying to get to here.
โWhen it does come time where I need to stop playing, I (know I) was so lucky. So it should be easy for me to give it up, have a few pucks around. But letโs see.
โTraining on Wednesday night is all itโs about for me. I love coming down early, being ready, throwing on the gear, going out and just do, whatever you want on the pitch. Boys come along, have a few chats. Thatโs what sport is. Itโs great to be involved in these big games and sell outs there (against Limerick). But itโs about the people you meet and the days you have with them.โ
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