BERNARD JACKMAN BELIEVES Graham Rowntree may have felt it best to let a “fresh voice” take command of the Munster dressing room after it was confirmed on Monday morning that the Englishman has left the province by mutual consent.
Rowntree’s departure stunned Irish rugby and occurred just minutes before Jackman, Murray Kinsella and host Gavan Casey recorded Monday’s episode of Rugby Weekly Extra for The 42 subscribers.
The RWE trio discussed the matter in depth on today’s pod, with Casey first asking Jackman if he got the sense that Rowntree had left of his own accord or been pushed out the door after a rough start to Munster’s season.
Former Ireland hooker Jackman replied: “I would guess he probably walked. He’s a very proud, very honourable guy.
“It’s ironic: I was watching Munster’s match in South Africa (v Sharks) from the sideline at the Aviva ahead of the Leinster game, and I just said to a few people, ‘I hope Graham doesn’t take too much on post-match. I hope he’s not too honest.’
“Because I feel sometimes he’s nearly too honest for his own good at press conferences and the weight and burden of expectation, and that craving of success for Munster weighs heavy on him.
This has been another difficult start to the season: there have obviously been injuries, he lost two of his best players over the summer (RG Snyman and Antoine Frisch).
Maybe he just feels that after five years, that energy or that way forward isn’t there, or that the group would be better off with a different voice.
“He’s not a mercenary coach. I would always be sceptical about coaches ‘mutually agreeing’ but in this case I actually could easily see it.
“I think if he did walk, it’s to give someone else a chance to try and get more out of them.”
Jackman, Kinsella and Casey discussed dressing-room dynamics at Munster and the purported deterioration in relations between Rowntree and a number of senior players, including Peter O’Mahony whose contractual negotiations last season became protracted.
Rowntree in September denied that he had fallen out with O’Mahony and Jackman stressed that such tensions between coaches and senior players weren’t dealbreakers in any case.
He also proposed that Rowntree’s primary problem this season was that Munster simply lacked the overall talent of previous sides, including that of Johann van Graan prior to Rowntree’s time in charge.
“A fractious relationship isn’t necessarily always a bad thing,” Jackman said. “In actual fact, if you’re a team like Munster who are striving to get back to the top level of Europe or catch up with your biggest rival, Leinster, you probably need that. You can’t be going in happy-clappy every Monday morning if there are things you need to fix.
“From what I can see on the outside, it wasn’t a lack of effort that caused failure here,” Jackman added. “It’s probably the bigger picture here — some of it’s resource, some of it’s the playing squad in which, potentially, he (Rowntree) has maybe been too loyal to some people — or he didn’t have the replacements for them.
“Talking to Donncha O’Callaghan, his generation had a different mentality in that they reacted very negatively towards a bad defeat and they generally bounced back — but to be fair, as well, they also had a lot more talent. You combine that talent with a mindset where they were desperate and proud to play for Munster, it was a very nice combination.
“This group just doesn’t have as much talent, I’m afraid. They can always have the plucky win but can you be consistent enough in the league and have you got the quality for the latter stages in Europe? At the moment, I don’t see it again.”
With Ian Costello assuming the role of interim head coach, speculation is only beginning as to who will ultimately replace Rowntree on a permanent basis.
Casey asked Jackman if he believed his former Grenoble colleague, Mike Prendergast, would consider throwing his own name in the hat in pursuit of an internal promotion much like Rowntree’s two years ago.
“I know he’s very ambitious to win with Munster but he’s always been so engrossed in team attack, backline attack, skill development that he’s never made known an inclination to want to step up,” Jackman said. “But I never ask him about it either.
“They recruited from within last time and got Graham in the end. If Mike wanted to go for it, he would certainly deserve an interview at the very least. But yeah, he’s never struck me as someone who’s desperate to be a head coach.
“Could he do it? Absolutely, he could do it. He’s got a wealth of experience now — but it’s a very different role. I mean, I don’t know if they should go for someone who hasn’t been a head coach. I’m not sure if they need that. Would they not rather get someone who’s very comfortable being a head coach?”
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Jaysus, I hope it’s all been done honourably on both sides….he seems a decent honest hard working man.
@Michael Murray:…from a source….Word on the street says he was happy to go and that politics in the munster set up wasn’t what he wanted. He couldn’t buy or attract players cause they wouldn’t finance anything.
Very sorry to see Graham Rowntree go. An honourable man who brought a title to Munster after a 12 year gap. For sure the season so far has been disappointing. A number of factors contributing:-
A desperate need for international class front row forwards. Stephen Archer and John Ryan have done an admirable job but with both at 36 years, they can’t play 80 minutes forever.
Too many absentees due to injuries.
The retirement through injury of Andrew Conway, Keith Earls and Simon Zebo.
The considerable loss of RG Snyman.
We wish GR well and thank him for his contribution.
Felixstowe Jones? Interesting.
@Ivan O’Riordan: zebo left his best years in France. Was only half a player when came home. Can add him as a reason
That none of the players, especially O’Mahony, have yet come out to thank Wig speaks volumes.
@Aidan Farrell: To be fair, they have literally just been told. He probably didn’t get a chance to speak to any of them personally before it was announced. Give them a chance to digest it first.
@Aidan Farrell: that you’re here with another dumb comment speaks volumes.
@Aidan Farrell: why “especially O’Mahony”, troll. Beirne is the captain, any statement should come from him.
Will somebody tell The42 that there are 4 provinces in Ireland!! :)
@Paul Ennis: have their head coaches left as well?
@Paul Ennis: I was saying Boourns
@Paul Ennis: But only 2 teams worth talking about.
@Paul Ennis: Careful now, down with this sort of thing!
@PJ Smith: I know. Mea Culpa.
@PJ Smith: I here you’re a langer now father.
I’d say when he was told that he couldn’t bring in NIQ front row LH, it was the final straw with what I believe was an already stressed relationship with IFRU.
He was apparently offered a leinster academy LH as medical joker which I think he took as an insult. Didn’t get the support either from the Munster board that he should have.
That all said, still a crazy time to depart a week out from the Marque ABs game….
Was honestly shocked with this ..everyone has seen how Munster take ages to get going in a season but then take off and do really well (winners 2 years ago/log leaders last year…would have thought Sean Everett at Edinburgh , plum at the sharks, possible dobson the stormers all would have been on the chopping board before rowntree…he’s obviously hasd some sort of scrap with the Munster bosses over whatever and said FU…given his history at the club and losing in SA that’s surely nowhere near enough for the bosses to want rid of him…maybe the pressure has just got to him .donno
@Stuart: agree. I would imagine that there was a significant difference of opinion on the way forward with decision makers in the organization and he felt as a result it was better to part ways. It sounds like his decision
Felix Jones….
@Keith McCarthy: …and the McManus brothers
I wanted to listen to the Rugby Weekly Extra podcast but the link only took me to my account – I’m a subscriber. Where is the correct link lads?
@Con Cussed: same same, assuming they are re-recording given the Rowntree news!
@Con Cussed: Rugby Rugby.weekly
A lot being said without saying much really. If he walked, what has changed so drastically since the start of the season to force him to such a drastic decision. If not internal relationships, is it squad issues? Munster have faced huge injury lists for the last few years now at the start of the season so nothing new there. Players moving on would have been known before the start of the year so hardly a defining factor at this stage. Surely senior players near the end of their careers shouldn’t have that much sway. If it is just a case that he got tired of it and the struggle with these issues then it may be something he regrets as this is part of the professional game. But in truth it could be totally different and even personal reasons.
I think if it comes out that player power was behind a coup of sorts, the players will be under extreme pressure to perform. The honeymoon period will be extremely short they will find.
@Michael Corkery: Is it Gavin Coombs? *dun dun dun…
and rowntree suddenly feels like a rock of cashel sized weight has been lifted from his shoulders…he can leave all that bitterness behind…
@Patrick Kennedy: and yet here your are still breathing, after carrying more your whole life. Pathetic
ROG??
@TV GUIDE: can I have what you are smoking?
He isn’t leaving La Rochelle any day soon , 3.5 m a year might change his mind
@damien reidy: How about Rob Baxter?
@Conor Lynott:…not the worst suggestion at all!!
@Conor Lynott: Yeah. I was just reading elsewhere that he is under pressure at Exeter. As an experienced and successful head coach, used to working under financial constraints, and who also comes across as a decent guy, he might be just the ticket
I blame Leinster !