@Ian Verdon: it doesn’t matter what he’s won. Taking a piss on a punter at a busy bar counter is disgusting. And he’s got for at this. He did the same at a house party where he used a laundry basket to the same effect.

@Kevin O’brien: indeed it’s animalistic, sick, disgusting, and I know of another couple of off the field stories re SOB. He wasn’t brought in to talk about them though. He was brought in on purely rugby matters and in terms of a rugby player and what he’s a achieved he’s a great person to give a pep talk. He wasn’t giving them a pep talk on how to represent oneself off the field. I am not defending what SOB did it was the lowest of the low.

@Ian Verdon: all in the timing Ian, thought Leinster would have liked to put a bit of distance between the incident before calling him back in, obviously not though. I’m sure there are plenty of other ex Leinster players hanging around who could’ve done with the few bob. I mean you couldn’t imagine them having Stan Wright in for a pep talk could you? Each to their own though, if Cullen or whoever invited him in thinks it’s no big deal then I guess it’s no big deal but it probably doesn’t say much about the internal attitude towards his misdemeanour.

@Umpaloompa: I wish I was Eddie…

@Umpaloompa: this comments section always reminds me of that movie Split, lads blatantly having conversations with themselves. All quite amusing if you set your expectations appropriately.

@Pseud O’Nym: yeah looking at the above it’s looks like someone has posted in one account, and replied to someone using a different account.

Not the first time it has happened for that particular poster too coincidentally……

@Jim Demps: i agree 100% the timing isn’t ideal. But in terms of on the field exploits there’s not many better examples Leinster could’ve brought in imo. His record speaks for itself. Stand Wright played 94 times for Leinster but I don’t think he made the same impact on the field and to the province has sob did. My biggest qualm with it is there wasn’t a serious and public apology made by sob or the club in the wake of the incident. Off the field he has had many a drink related incident and as a player in the spotlight it’s the whole package not just the on the field stuff one must adhere to.

@Eddie Hekenui: From what I’ve read elsewhere, O’Brien has been rehabbing his injury with Leinster during the Summer rather than with London Irish.

I’d agree though that having O’Brien make a speech to the team pre-Europe doesn’t come across as the best idea. The players still playing for the club should be the ones driving the message, not players who have just left. Sometimes it’s better to put a full-stop on things and move on.

@Pseud O’Nym: haha i was just thinking the same. I don’t be in the comments sections much on rugby articles so dont know if this alway the craic…are they even trying to be subtle???

@Jim Demps: funny all the muster lads jumping in the give their few cents. Cullen and Leinster in general know how to breed a winning mentality. Something Munster could learn a thing or two from. It’s also funny that Jim was on here defending Dylan Hartley a few weeks back for both his on field and off field antics yet you’re ready to hang a fellow Irish man given any opportunity.

@Rocky Raccoon: who are all the Munster lads? Eddie doesn’t follow anyone and Ian is a leinster fan. Not hanging anyone here, just thought they’d put a bit of distance between the incident and inviting him back in. I do realise that public criticism of our blue overlords isn’t allowed though so sorry about that.

@Jim Demps: apology accepted. Just don’t make the same mistake again.

@Ian Verdon: No doubting him as a player. He was one of my favourite players to watch and always gave his all to whatever cause he was playing for and maybe it was an incredibly inspiring speech that’ll set the tone for the season. Leinster can, will and should do what they like but it just doesn’t sit well with me having him back and highlighted as someone inspirational so soon after such a disgraceful episode that he’s failed to address. I really dislike how he personally has handled this affair and think Leinster have failed to meet the high standards they set for years in recent months. Maybe it’s just a by product of rugby becoming more commericialised and clubs are now driven by sponsors, pr agencies, executives and so on but for me the best way to deal with these things is own it, apologise and move on.

@Eddie Hekenui: i agree but tbh knowing of other non publicized off the field antics sob has been involved in it doesn’t surprise me he hasn’t made a proper apology. On the field he’s a legend off the field with alcohol on board I’ve heard his behaviour at times is poor(we’re all guilty of this but most of us aren’t in the public eye). I agree Leinster could’ve done more to have a more vocal stance against what sob did and Wright but we’re not privileged to all the inner workings of what goes on in the modern game like you said. In terms of pure rugby tho sob’s career and dedication to whatever jersey he’s had on is second to none and if I was a young player I would be lapping up any on the field advice or experiences he’s had.

@Ian Verdon: Yeah I’ve heard a fair few stories about O’Brien and alcohol but he’s far from alone in that regard when it comes to rugby players in Ireland. For me the provinces are a bit unique in professional rugby in that they are responsible for all rugby in their region and thus should hold themselves to a higher standard than other clubs.

@Eddie Hekenui: yeah i do like that uniqueness. I feel it’s Leinster backing of one their own which is the wrong way of going about it. If they had come out with a formal apology themselves along with Sob and then got him in to give this rugby prep talk I think it would be less of an issue. Neither party did and that’s disappointing being a Leinster fan. In terms of getting in a former player though to give a rugby prep talk there’s not many better I could think of. I like to keep to strictly rugby on here as much as possible so my og was with that in mind. I am not defending sob in any of his off the field actions whatsoever.

@Ian Verdon: Yeah I really enjoy how the provinces are all encompassing. It’s part of what drives the bond between club, fans and the players coming through. All the provinces have to be careful to manage that and realise it’s about more than just the professional arm. To be fair getting O’Brien in to talk is a really minor thing and my comment was made in jest after more than a few beers

@Ian Verdon: For what it is worth most people may have no issue with him being brought in to do a pep talk but his off field antics have been out of order and down right basically ignorant and boorish.
We all have done things that we may not have been proud of over time but this lad has a “Ill don’t give a fxxk” attitude just because of his perceived hero status in a pampered professional sport.

@Kevin Ryan: ahhhhhhh toner is 34 with a huge injury profile, get over it.

@Kevin O’brien: Right so, give us the highlights of this huge injury list Toner has?

@Kevin O’brien: Huge injury profile? What are you on about?

@Cian Nolan: he came off vs England in the 6N and didn’t play again. Had you forgotten or what? He struggled with an ankle injury. Right up to selection for the plane to Japan.

@Kevin O’brien: id say you’ve injured your self more typing bs than toner been injured.

@Kevin O’brien: definitely not

@John Buckley: What did the best 7 of all time Richie McCaw say about O Brien. The best 7 he ever faced.

@Brian Leonard: Where did he say that? I’ve only ever seen him say George Smith. He’s certainly sung his praises but never to that level as far as I know

@Brian Leonard: you are unbelievably ignorant of rugby players that played b4 you jumped on the bandwagon. Michael Jones was a far superior 7 to McCaw so he isn’t even the best 7 to ever play for NZ. Even if McCaw said that, how does it matter make SOB better than Slattery.

@John Buckley: I haven’t jumped on any bandwagon. I’m entitled to my opinion ya lug

@Brian Leonard: yes, even an ignorant moron, like yourself, can have an opinion

@John Buckley: I’m ignorant???? Your funny ya muck savage

@Brian Leonard: Any link to McCaw talking about O’Brien as the best 7 he ever faced? That be interesting to read as McCaw played against a who’s who of great 7′s and saw some great 7′s performances 1st hand.

@Brian Leonard: anyone who thinks McCaw is better than Michael Jones is an ignorant moron who knows nothing about rugby union

@John Buckley: that’s your opinion John and am I calling you ignorant for your opinion. No because I ain’t a big onion like yourself

@Robb Stark: it is indeed vile. And yes it would be better if he publicly apologised. But for me he has seen both sides of success good and bad and can offer advice on both. Would I have picked him to do it? Probably not if I’m honest.

@Kevin: make up your mind ya clown